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	<title>Comments on: Dear Nonprofiteer, Can a church board shut out the congregation?</title>
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	<description>Nonprofits Without The Nonsense--and that&#039;s just the tip of the iceberg!</description>
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		<title>By: Nonprofiteer</title>
		<link>http://nonprofiteer.net/2008/07/10/dear-nonprofiteer-can-a-church-board-shut-out-the-congregation/#comment-11337</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no requirement of which I&#039;m aware that religious people tolerate wrongdoing from their leaders.  Rather, every person is called upon to exercise his/her judgment and exert his/her energies to make sure the church, synagogue, mosque or whatever is operating correctly.  Prayer is not a substitute for action, though some people may find it a useful guide to action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no requirement of which I&#8217;m aware that religious people tolerate wrongdoing from their leaders.  Rather, every person is called upon to exercise his/her judgment and exert his/her energies to make sure the church, synagogue, mosque or whatever is operating correctly.  Prayer is not a substitute for action, though some people may find it a useful guide to action.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Jimenez</title>
		<link>http://nonprofiteer.net/2008/07/10/dear-nonprofiteer-can-a-church-board-shut-out-the-congregation/#comment-11335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Jimenez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem here is not a legal problem, but a spiritual problem. If you attend a conservative  evangelical church, you should be more concerned about praying for your church leaders because that is the will of God. Your priority is to serve humbly and eagerly in the church in whatever capacity God has called you. Be sure to seek the wiil of God in everything you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is not a legal problem, but a spiritual problem. If you attend a conservative  evangelical church, you should be more concerned about praying for your church leaders because that is the will of God. Your priority is to serve humbly and eagerly in the church in whatever capacity God has called you. Be sure to seek the wiil of God in everything you do.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://nonprofiteer.net/2008/07/10/dear-nonprofiteer-can-a-church-board-shut-out-the-congregation/#comment-7366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 22:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when personal issues are raised , do we need ever member and non-member in attendance? Boards are eleced by the congregation to do the buisness they have not time to do. It has nothing to do with ivory towers. If you are seriously interested let someone know and get yourself elected at the next annual meeting Don&#039;t just go aroung with sour grapes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when personal issues are raised , do we need ever member and non-member in attendance? Boards are eleced by the congregation to do the buisness they have not time to do. It has nothing to do with ivory towers. If you are seriously interested let someone know and get yourself elected at the next annual meeting Don&#8217;t just go aroung with sour grapes.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonprofiteer</title>
		<link>http://nonprofiteer.net/2008/07/10/dear-nonprofiteer-can-a-church-board-shut-out-the-congregation/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nonprofiteer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite the values professed by most houses of worship, many of them are operated with ethics seemingly borrowed from the Mafia--an emphasis on loyalty (to a pastor, a doctrine, or a group of fellow parishioners) above all else including good faith and fair dealing.  Doubtless there is religious balm available for these problems, but the Nonprofiteer specializes in helping people deal with one another in the circumstances in which they find each other, and in this life and not the next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the values professed by most houses of worship, many of them are operated with ethics seemingly borrowed from the Mafia&#8211;an emphasis on loyalty (to a pastor, a doctrine, or a group of fellow parishioners) above all else including good faith and fair dealing.  Doubtless there is religious balm available for these problems, but the Nonprofiteer specializes in helping people deal with one another in the circumstances in which they find each other, and in this life and not the next.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://nonprofiteer.net/2008/07/10/dear-nonprofiteer-can-a-church-board-shut-out-the-congregation/#comment-1999</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert I too have similar feelings as you but I realized the church is not made up of perfect people and sometimes they sin against one another. We are all sick in one way or another and need the Master Physician to heal us. I also realized these occasions can be used to bring us either closer to God or further away. I know in my own family my wife and or I might say or do something that hurts the other person and what we do is work it out in love and in the end we are stronger because of our “working it out”. If you would like to discuss this further I can be contacted at subscriptions911@gmail.com.  Howard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert I too have similar feelings as you but I realized the church is not made up of perfect people and sometimes they sin against one another. We are all sick in one way or another and need the Master Physician to heal us. I also realized these occasions can be used to bring us either closer to God or further away. I know in my own family my wife and or I might say or do something that hurts the other person and what we do is work it out in love and in the end we are stronger because of our “working it out”. If you would like to discuss this further I can be contacted at <a href="mailto:subscriptions911@gmail.com">subscriptions911@gmail.com</a>.  Howard</p>
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		<title>By: judy</title>
		<link>http://nonprofiteer.net/2008/07/10/dear-nonprofiteer-can-a-church-board-shut-out-the-congregation/#comment-1907</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[judy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a shame Robert that you have not  attended   another church to share the gifts God has given to you because you were hurt by being &quot;shut out&quot;.  Not every church desires such treatment for their congregation. We have only been a &quot;church&quot; for one year now and my husband did not take a salary within that time. Just recently the other four members of the board met and discussed a salary for their pastor. Afterwards we were requested a meeting with a couple in which they informed us on their feelings of not being involved in the decision, tho thought their pastor should have a salary at this time. &quot;I would have liked to just raise my hand and say it is about time and give him all the church can afford to give&quot;. was his statement.  We had no idea that the other members felt &quot;shut out&quot;. Our church operates in an unusual unity, altho, we are new at this and we were happy to hear their complaint and will now change the way we handle some things, encluding our meetings. We were glad for the learning experience. 
I pray you find a church that has the love of God present within each member and grow to love others the same way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a shame Robert that you have not  attended   another church to share the gifts God has given to you because you were hurt by being &#8220;shut out&#8221;.  Not every church desires such treatment for their congregation. We have only been a &#8220;church&#8221; for one year now and my husband did not take a salary within that time. Just recently the other four members of the board met and discussed a salary for their pastor. Afterwards we were requested a meeting with a couple in which they informed us on their feelings of not being involved in the decision, tho thought their pastor should have a salary at this time. &#8220;I would have liked to just raise my hand and say it is about time and give him all the church can afford to give&#8221;. was his statement.  We had no idea that the other members felt &#8220;shut out&#8221;. Our church operates in an unusual unity, altho, we are new at this and we were happy to hear their complaint and will now change the way we handle some things, encluding our meetings. We were glad for the learning experience.<br />
I pray you find a church that has the love of God present within each member and grow to love others the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hardly a &quot;Christian&quot; attitude to shut out church members. Then again, from my experience, church is a great place to feel shut out. But you churches sure don&#039;t shut anyone out when the collection plate is passed, do you?

As you say, I took my ball and went home, never to return to church. I for one would rather suffer from loneliness than bow and scrape to these phony-baloney churches who don&#039;t care about some of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hardly a &#8220;Christian&#8221; attitude to shut out church members. Then again, from my experience, church is a great place to feel shut out. But you churches sure don&#8217;t shut anyone out when the collection plate is passed, do you?</p>
<p>As you say, I took my ball and went home, never to return to church. I for one would rather suffer from loneliness than bow and scrape to these phony-baloney churches who don&#8217;t care about some of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Heartburn Home Remedy</title>
		<link>http://nonprofiteer.net/2008/07/10/dear-nonprofiteer-can-a-church-board-shut-out-the-congregation/#comment-1716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heartburn Home Remedy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read your posts for quite a long time and must tell you that your posts are always valuable to readers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your posts for quite a long time and must tell you that your posts are always valuable to readers.</p>
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